
Deconstructor of Fun
By Deconstructor of Fun
Hosts:
Michail Katkoff @mkatkoff www.linkedin.com/in/michailkatkoff/
Eric Kress @ekress
www.linkedin.com/in/erickress/
Laura Taranto @laurataranto www.linkedin.com/in/laurataranto/
Phillip Black @econosopher www.linkedin.com/in/phillip-black-economist/
Jen Donahoe @Jen_Donahoe www.linkedin.com/in/jenniferdonahoe


TWIG #322 Farmville, Pokemon Go, and Female Gamers
Mishka wrestles with the implications of AppLovin’s Triple Dot acquisition, while Scopely’s latest move has everyone questioning the future of Pokémon Go. Eric breaks down the latest insights from the Turkish gaming industry, while Jen dissects the Midia Research gamer segmentation report. Phil revisits the hypercasual ad playbook, while Subway Surfers just keeps running. Plus, a final look at GDC announcements, the mobile vs. console showdown, and what it all means for the industry.
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04:24 Turkish Gaming Industry Insights
06:20 GDC Event Announcements
09:16 Triple Dot and AppLovin Acquisition Analysis
22:58 Midia Research Gamer Segmentation Report
30:10 Social Elements in Gaming
30:35 Mobile vs Console
31:13 Farmville, Monopoly Go, and Female Gamers
33:41 Subway Surfers
34:23 The Hypercasual Ad Strategy
41:12 Scopely's Acquisition of Niantic Games
44:04 The Future of Pokemon Go
53:50 Scopely's Strategy

274. Skillz CEO Andrew Paradise on the $75M Accelerator and the Future of Skill-Based Gaming
www.skillz.com/developeraccelerator/
We dive deep into the world of real-money skill-based gaming and the exciting new Developer Accelerator launched by Skills Inc.
Our special guest, Andrew Paradise, CEO and co-founder of Skillz, sheds light on the potential and market opportunity within this rapidly growing industry, discussing what types of games and studios Skillz is looking to support.
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
00:19 Skill-Based Mobile Games Accelerator
04:09 Monetization and Market Strategy
13:32 Retention and Engagement Metrics
22:07 Skill-Based Gaming Market Insights
25:36 Understanding Sweepstakes and Skill-Based Gaming
26:17 Skill-Based Gaming Prizes and Competitions
28:06 Future of Skill Gaming
30:32 Expanding Game Genres and Market Reach
32:57 Skill-Based Gaming on Different Platforms
33:36 Addressing Bot Concerns in Skill Gaming
37:43 Insights from the Startup Journey
43:14 Challenges and Benefits of Going Public
45:52 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

273. How Türkiye Became the New Capital of Mobile Gaming – And Where It’s Headed Next
The world-class panel of Turkish founders and investors with Mehmet Ecevit (ex-CEO and co-founder of Gram Games), Batuhan Celebi (CEO and co-founder of Grand Games), and Görkem Turk (founder of Laton Ventures) shares their thoughts on what makes the Turkish gaming ecosystem unique, the importance of data-driven design, and how to maintain company culture while scaling.
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction and Welcoming Guests
00:30 Success Stories and Achievements
03:31 Challenges and Strategies in Game Development
09:14 Company Culture and Hiring Practices
17:47 Scaling Companies and Future Prospects
21:14 Insights on the Turkish Gaming Ecosystem
31:07 Balancing Creativity and Data-Driven Decisions
44:46 Balancing Internal and External Motivations
45:56 Early Days and Scaling Merge Dragons
47:25 The Impact of External Validation
49:29 Cultural Differences in Handling Failure
53:20 Challenges in the Turkish Gaming Industry
01:07:32 The Importance of Mentorship and Partnerships
01:24:22 Future of the Turkish Gaming Ecosystem
01:30:43 Conclusion and Community Engagement

TWIG #321 AppLovin’s SHOCK Acquirer, Supercell's New Boat, and Guitar Hero’s $1B CORPSE
Eric tries his best to make sense of the AppLovin deal, while Monster Hunter Wilds has never made more sense. Laura covers Supercell’s Lonely Island play, Boat Game, while Jen defends Disney IP as it STEPs it up in Japan. Phil wants a recount of Guitar Hero’s demise, while Activision announces another entry in the franchise.
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00:00 Introduction and Hosts
02:27 Today's Topics Overview
03:01 Jen's UCLA Story
04:00 GDC Announcements
05:46 AppLovin's Short Seller Drama
07:26 Steam's Record-Breaking Numbers
08:32 AppLovin's Game Division Sale
12:50 Sony's PlayStation VR 2 Price Drop
13:55 Supercell and SpaceApe Updates
17:15 Forte's Acquisition of Sealants
18:06 Miniclip Acquires Lessmore
18:38 Supercell's New Boat Game
23:05 Supercell's Market Mismatch
23:34 Roblox Comparison Debate
24:06 Monetization Challenges
25:01 Split Faction Reviews
25:43 Fable Delayed Again
26:44 Monster Hunter's Global Success
31:29 Disney Step in Japan
34:10 Scopely's Vanity Play
39:06 Guitar Hero Mobile Announcement
44:45 The Fall of Music Games
46:52 Conclusion and Farewell

272. From Prototypes to Hits: Inside Rollic’s Playbook with CEO Burak Vardal
“The way we survive is built on being creative every day”
We sit down with Burak Vardal, CEO and co-founder of Rollic, to explore how the company skyrocketed in just a couple of years from a Turkish startup to one of the most successful mobile game publishers in the world.
Burak shares insights on:
- The early days of Rollic and its quick acquisition by Zynga for $168M
- How they consistently launch hit mobile games
- The shift from hyper-casual to hybrid-casual and how it changed their business model
- Why being a gamer-first company is key to their success
- What makes Turkey a global hub for mobile game development
- The future of Rollic under Take-Two Interactive
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00:00 Introduction and Background of Rollic
06:41 Türkiye as a Hub for Game Development
13:18 Business Model and Future Vision
25:54 Competition and Talent in the Turkish Gaming Industry
29:45 Creativity in Gaming: The Key to Success
31:54 The Importance of Ideation in Mobile Gaming
33:52 The Role of Testing in Game Development
36:32 Transitioning from Startup to Industry Leader
46:46 Advice for Aspiring Game Developers
52:47 Final Thoughts and Future Prospects

TWIG #320 Unity’s Fate, Fake Ads, Loot Boxes & GTA’s UGC Revolution
With Miska back jet-set life, Eric is HOT about the newest RNG platform, while Phil wants to revisit Niantic’s $9B valuation and go shopping in the Epic Game Store. Jen explodes a new angle on Vector, but Eric isn’t buying the geometry. The crew fights the first war on Last War’s Fake Ads: get real or get rich?
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01:19 Star Wars
03:36 Shilling and Advice
06:48 Niantic's Valuation and Exit
08:48 PrizePix and Gambling
11:44 Hasbro Digital's Success
16:04 Epic Game Store Analysis
23:03 GTA and UGC Potential
29:14 Steam Deck's Impact on the PC Market
30:17 Unity's Earnings & Vector
44:00 Warner Bros Studio Closures
45:50 Love and Deep Space: A Unique RPG
48:18 Last War Survival's Success
50:09 Fake Ads
57:33 Overwatch Loot Boxes Return??
58:45 Conclusion and Sign-Off

271. Gaming in the Middle East: Inside Abu Dhabi’s Big Bet on Games
Marcos Muller, Director of Abu Dhabi talks about how the city is building a world-class gaming ecosystem from the ground up. From talent development to job creation and community engagement, Abu Dhabi Gaming is making big moves to attract studios, support developers, and put the region on the global gaming map.
Marcos shares insights on the incentives for game studios, and the growth of the gaming economy in the UAE, and even breaks down some misconceptions about life in Abu Dhabi. If you’re a game dev, investor, or just curious about emerging gaming hubs, this episode is a must-listen!
connect with Marcos: www.linkedin.com/in/mmhabig/
Chapters:
00:00 – Intro & Welcome Marcos Muller
02:15 – Why Abu Dhabi is Investing in Gaming
06:30 – Building a Sustainable Gaming Ecosystem
12:45 – The Role of Incubators, Accelerators & Studios
18:20 – Financial Incentives & Support for Game Companies
23:40 – Addressing the Talent Gap: Visas, Universities & Local Growth
30:10 – What Makes Abu Dhabi Attractive for Game Developers?
37:55 – Busting Myths About Living & Working in Abu Dhabi
45:20 – Abu Dhabi’s Long-Term Vision for Gaming
50:05 – Final Thoughts & Advice for Game Developers

TWIG #319 Scopely 💰 Niantic, Marvel Rivals Drama, and Xbox in Downfall?
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Scopely and Niantic are making moves, but can they actually change the game? NetEase unloads Marvel Rivals US studio—a political or an efficiency move? Plus, SMicrosoft’s console strategy looks shakier than ever, and we break down what the future of console gaming really looks like. And just when you thought it was over, King pulls another card from its sleeve. 🚀🎮
03:55 - GDC Shills
11:03 - Scopely & Niantic
20:10 - Jam City & Ludia AR Market
21:43 - Marvel Rivals & Netease
31:13 - Sony Earnings
32:06 - Microsoft's Console Struggles
38:00 - The Future of Console Gaming
50:54 - Return of King

270. Why This CEO Moved His Gaming Studio from London to Abu Dhabi
🔗 Connect with Boris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/boris-kalmykov-7ba38065/
We chat with Boris Kalnikov, CEO & Co-founder of Hype Masters, about relocating his gaming studio from London to Abu Dhabi. Boris shares his journey with World War Armies, the challenges of remote work, and why he chose Abu Dhabi as his new home.
We dive into Abu Dhabi’s rise as a gaming hub, its government incentives, and the realities of running a studio in the region—from tax benefits to hiring talent and lifestyle changes. Whether you’re a developer, founder, or just curious about gaming in the Middle East, this episode has key insights you won’t want to miss.
Timestamps:
⏳ [00:00] Why Boris left London for Abu Dhabi
🏗️ [06:00] Building a gaming studio in a new ecosystem
💰 [20:00] What incentives and funding opportunities are available?
⚖️ [27:00] Abu Dhabi vs. London: Cost of living, taxes & hiring
🎮 [40:00] The future of gaming in Abu Dhabi
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TWIG #318 Supercell’s Records, Unity’s Chaos & AppLovin’s Fire Sale
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Supercell had a monster year with €2.8B in revenue, proving that bigger live ops teams and aggressive marketing can still drive growth—but let’s be real, Squad Busters flopped hard despite the hype. Meanwhile, Unity continues its slow-motion train wreck, losing key talent and scrambling to fix its ad tech, while AppLovin is absolutely crushing it, with stock up 700% thanks to AI-powered ads. Now, in a power move, AppLovin is dumping its entire games portfolio for $900M—so who’s buying? Scopely? Zynga? Playtika? Drop your bets in the comments. 🚀🎮
01:29 Shills
07:25 Dream and Venture Capital
10:27 Battlefield and Shooter Games
14:23 Minecraft Studio Leadership Changes
20:39 Supercell's Record Year
25:57 Live Ops and Monetization Changes
26:52 Squad Busters' Marketing Missteps
31:35 Spark Labs's Bootcamp Vibes
37:44 Unity's Struggles and Layoffs
41:45 AppLovin's Strategic Shift

269. The Ultra Positive Gaming Market Report: Sensor Tower's State of Mobile 2025
State of Mobile 2025 Report:
https://bit.ly/42T04bX
Join us in this episode as Jonathan Briskman from Sensor Towers and Michail Katkoff explore the overall health of the mobile market, Jonathan highlights strong growth metrics despite a mature landscape. He sheds light on the booming in-app purchase revenue and time spent on devices, while also discussing intriguing trends such as digital fatigue and the rise of hybrid apps. We also touch on the global success stories in mobile gaming, focusing on new hit games and the strategic importance of localization for cracking difficult markets like Japan and South Korea.
01:03 Mobile Market Trends and Metrics
05:33 Mobile Gaming Analysis
07:50 Challenges and Regional Factors
15:50 Success Stories and Strategies
25:57 Non-Gaming App Revenue Growth
35:03 Innovative AI Features in Apps
35:29 Gamification and User Engagement
36:36 Duolingo: A Game or Learning Tool?
38:14 Blurring Lines Between Games and Non-Games
38:25 Short Drama Apps: A Growing Trend
40:45 Global Mobile Usage Trends
42:26 Digital Fatigue and Market Shifts
49:40 Localization Strategies for Global Success
53:56 Emerging Markets and Growth Opportunities
56:46 Tapping into User-Generated Content Platforms
01:00:06 Key Takeaways from the State of Mobile Report

268. Wilfrid Obeng on How to Scale a $100M Startup and Choosing Abu Dhabi over Silicon Valley
Wilfrid Obeng’s journey from Goldman Sachs and Google to gaming startup CTO is anything but typical.
In this episode, he breaks down how AudioMob is redefining in-game ads with audio, why they chose Abu Dhabi over Silicon Valley to scale their engineering team, and what it takes to transition from corporate structure to startup chaos. We dig into leadership lessons, hiring strategies, and the future of ad monetization—all from someone who’s been in the trenches. If you’re scaling a startup or rethinking monetization, this episode is a must-listen. 🎧🔥
www.linkedin.com/in/wilfridobeng
00:00 Wilfrid Obeng and AudioMob
04:51 From Goldman Sachs to Startup CTO
07:24 The Importance of Mentorship
13:40 Creating a Performance Culture
24:52 Life in Abu Dhabi: Work and Play
28:47 Hiring and Leadership in a Diverse Team
35:03 The Reality of Startups
37:10 Competing for Talent in Startups
39:05 Leadership Evolution and Challenges
42:07 The Importance of Company Culture
56:44 Living and Working in Abu Dhabi
01:05:01 Future Plans and Personal Growth

TWIG #317: Big Dream, Bigger Battlefield, and the Biggest Roblox M&A deal EVER
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With Jen at a meditation retreat in California and Miska fully embracing his jet-set life, Eric reminds us just how wrong Matthew Ball got it.
Adam reveals the Multiversus thesis and argues that Battlefield has room to grab dormant fans and grow the market. Phil spews Battlefield tears and worries about Roblox’s value destruction.
They conclude by debating the AI integration in-games: flop or tbd?

267. Helldivers 2, Warframe, First Descendant, and Once Human - How to Operate a PvE Shooter?
This episode features insights from top industry professionals on player engagement, revenue models, and the challenges faced by new releases like Helldivers 2, First Descendant, and Once Human. Dive into in-depth discussions on successful PvE models, key strategies for game success, and the future of game monetization.
Join Adam Telfer and a panel of experts as they explore the latest trends in PvE shooters and the evolving tools needed for effective LiveOps.
Brought to you by Heroic Labs, AppsFlyer, Sensor Tower, and Xsolla.
02:31 Market Overview of PVE Shooters
03:25 Recent Releases and Trends
04:07 Revenue and Engagement
07:54 PVE Live Service Challenges
08:42 Helldivers 2: Success and Future
13:54 The Competitive Landscape
27:04 First Descendant and Once Human
27:38 First Descendant's Elder Loop
29:27 PvE Shooter Systems
30:42 Helldivers 2: On The Way Out
36:34 Warframe's Sustained Success
40:13 Strategies for PvE Shooter Success
45:52 The Future of PvE Shooters

TWIG #316 Metaverse Myths, Ubisoft’s Struggles and the Stance for Marketing
We start off with Kress coming after Matthew Ball and his take on the Metaverse and end the episode with Jen making the last stance for brand marketers.
In between the team breaks down the FTC’s latest settlement on loot boxes and what it means for the industry. Deep dive into Ubisoft's sea of worries and discuss Habby’s latest launch hurdles.
00:00 Intros
01:40 Shills
02:50 GDC Announcements and Sponsors
06:35 Corrections and Apologies
08:09 Matthew Ball and the Metaverse Debate
19:20 Loot Boxes and FTC Settlement
23:54 Sony, Marvel Snap, and Warner Brothers
28:58 Tech Company Operations
29:09 Star Wars Outlaws Sales Analysis
29:58 Ubisoft Helsinki and Gwen's Getaway
31:05 Rainbow Six Mobile's Struggles
32:34 Virtuous Acquisitions and Outsourcing
36:23 Habby's Game Launch Challenges
41:04 EA's Top Selling Games and Earnings
46:18 Marketing Strategies and Impact
57:15 Conclusion and Sign-Off

266. Money, Markets & Disruptive Trends – Xsolla’s Chris Hewish
Xsolla State of Play report:
https://xsolla.com/newsroom/xsolla-autumn-2024-report
Mobile gaming is bigger than ever, with the industry set to hit $98.7 billion in 2024. But where is that growth coming from? In this episode, we sit down with Xsolla’s Chris Hewish to break down the key trends shaping the global market—from Asia’s dominance to the rise of emerging regions like Africa, Latin America, and the Middle East.
We also dig into how player demographics are shifting and what it means for game makers. With diversity becoming a bigger focus, studios are rethinking how they engage and design for an increasingly varied audience.
Chris unpacks the impact of the Digital Markets Act (DMA), explaining how developers are navigating new monetization opportunities beyond traditional app stores. We also tackle the surge of direct-to-consumer web shops, how gaming is merging with mainstream entertainment (yes, we’re looking at you, Secret Level), and what all of this means for the future of the industry.
If you want to stay ahead of where mobile gaming is headed, this episode is a must-listen.

265. How do Playtika and Wooga nail their Live Ops strategies?
How do Playtika and Wooga nail their Live Ops strategies? What does GameRefinery say you’re missing?
In this episode, Nadav Moshes (Product & Market Insights Lead at Playtika), Maxime Graux (Head of Product Management at Wooga), and Erno Kiiski (Chief Game Analyst at GameRefinery) sit down with our very own Jen Donahoe to dissect the art and science of Live Ops.
From mobile to PC/console gaming, we break down the latest trends driving social, engagement, and monetization events. Discover how understanding player motivations is the key to creating better events and why a holistic event framework is critical to your Live Ops success.
We dive into practical strategies around segmentation, iteration, and gamified offers to level up engagement and boost your monetization. Whether you’re building your Live Ops muscle or refining your existing strategy, this episode is packed with actionable insights for every game developer.
01:05 Meet the Experts: Nadav, Max, and Erno
07:36 Social LiveOps: Trends and Examples
12:31 Monopoly Go's Collaborative and Competitive Events
15:02 June's Journey: Social Features and Player Motivations
25:11 Engagement LiveOps: Long-Term and Short-Term Events
33:07 The Importance of Long-Term Engagement
36:40 Short-Term Collection Mechanics
38:15 Multi-Stage Mission Events
43:19 Advanced Segmentation in LiveOps
49:54 Challenges in Testing and Iteration
51:19 Monetization Strategies and Bundle Offers
01:01:50 Final Thoughts and Key Takeaways

TWIG #315 TikTok Ban and Matthew Ball's State of the Market Report
TikTok’s gaming experiment closures and Marvel Snap’s China operations highlight the challenges of scaling global hits. Netflix’s games strategy is dissected, alongside surprising trends like the resurgence of Solitaire, which seems to be tapping into the nostalgia economy.
The discussion turns heavier as the team unpacks sweeping workforce cuts at Huuuge Games and the growing dominance of Chinese game developers on the global stage. Bonfire Studios’ new game announcement and Matthew Ball’s analysis of gaming’s shifting market dynamics provide fresh perspectives on innovation and competition.
01:13 TV Show Marketing
02:49 Marketing Strategy Debate
06:14 Shills
10:19 Nintendo Switch 2 Leaks
12:56 TikTok and Marvel Snap Shutdowns
16:36 Industry Moves and New Roles
19:44 Netflix Games Strategy
21:36 Solitaire Making a Comeback??
31:31 Bonfire Studios’ New Game
34:36 Huge Games Workforce Cuts
35:28 Matthew Ball’s Market Analysis
47:12 The Rise of Chinese Game Developers
49:57 The Cost of Game Development
58:02 Future Growth Levers in Gaming

264. Breaking Barriers: The Journey of a Next-Gen Game Developer Alexandra Takei
Jen Donahoe sits down with Alexandra Takei, a rising star who’s making waves in the gaming industry.
They dive into what it takes to bridge the gap between business and creativity in gaming, the hard-earned lessons from startups, and how proactive collaboration can drive innovation.
Alexandra discusses empathy and mentorship's critical role in her career and shares advice for those navigating the fast-paced gaming ecosystem.
01:04 About Alex Takei
03:43 Early Career and Entry into Gaming
10:30 Blizzard Experience and Mentorship
23:51 PJourney to Content Creation
29:11 Venture Capital and Bitcraft
34:51 Understanding Game Complexity and Business Models
35:32 The Importance of Team Inclusivity
36:27 Challenges of Pitching and Raising Money
37:14 Navigating Game Development Constraints
38:14 Startup Dynamics vs. Big Companies
39:20 Wearing Multiple Hats in a Startup
42:20 Empathy and Flexibility in Leadership
50:55 The Role of Mentorship
57:52 Final Advice for Aspiring Professionals
01:00:57 Alex's Sign-Off
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TWIG #314 Market Predictions, Nintendo Leaks and an Award Ceremony
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This week’s TWIG episode starts with bold predictions for 2025 in mobile gaming, followed by Eric Kress’s half-hearted backtracking on hyper-casual games and the latest Nintendo Switch 2 leaks before deep diving into Marvel Rivals’ potential impact.
The team revisits the year’s most significant moments, explores standout moments, and wraps up with listener feedback and reflections.
00:00 Squad Intros
01:28 California Wildfires + How to Help
03:18 Shills
05:34 Predictions for 2025 in Mobile
09:44 Corrections and Hyper Casual Talk
14:06 Nintendo Switch 2 Leaks
16:05 Investments and Funding News
20:15 Marvel Rivals
34:10 Talk of the Year: Mass Layoffs
34:53 Embarrassing Predictions
35:58 Company Damage: Ubisoft's Downfall
37:04 Most Disappointing Game
40:36 Financial Success: Mice Nuts
42:32 Questionable Moves
47:46 Brilliant Moves
50:35 Crushing It: Brawl Stars
53:13 Layoff Lowlights
53:43 Limping Donkey Award
55:20 Listener Feedback and Wrap-Up

263. From Failures to Funding: Strategic Moves Founders Should Know with Joe Wadakethalakal, CEO of PvX Partners
CEO and co-founder of PvX Partners (www.pvxpartners.com), Joe Wadakethalakal shares his unique journey from India to Indonesia and beyond. Key takeaways from our chat with Joe Wadakethalakal: **Resilience matters**: Entrepreneurship is brutal—Joe’s journey shows how surviving failures and tough times builds long-term success. **Market size over Network**: Starting in large, scalable markets (U.S., India, China) beats hustling in smaller ones. Lesson learned the hard way. **Smart fundraising wins**: Raising capital isn’t just about money—it’s about unlocking talent, momentum, and strategic growth. Just don’t overdo it! Chapters: 00:00 Intro 05:53 Banking and Private Equity Experience 12:28 Challenges and Lessons Learned 18:53 Joining MPL and Strategic Growth 49:20 The Importance of Capital in Startups 54:10 Leaving MPL and Starting PVX 01:00:48 PVX's Unique Approach to UA Financing 01:19:15 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

🏆 The 2024 Golden TWIG Awards: an Unfiltered Gaming Industry Award Show
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Brace yourself for the most candid awards show in gaming! Join us as we dissect the highs and lows of 2024, dishing out Golden TWIGs for the year’s most memorable moments. From epic fails to surprising triumphs, we’re covering it all:
- Company Carnage: Who took the biggest hits?
- Gaming Letdowns: Which hyped title fell flat?
- Layoff Lowlights: The most brutal workforce cuts
- Oops, We Did It Again: Our most embarrassing predictions
Get ready for unvarnished opinions, heated debates, and a no-holds-barred look at the gaming industry’s rollercoaster year.
Don’t miss this annual tradition where you separate the gold from the garbage!

262. The Secret Sauce of 🇫🇷 French Game Publishers with Vincent Février, CMO of TapNation
The Hybridcasual Playbook https://metahybridcasualplaybook.splashthat.com/
In this episode of the Deconstructor of Fun podcast, Mishka Katkoff interviews Vincent Fevrier, CMO of Tap Nation, discussing the evolution of hybrid casual games and the unique position of French publishers in the gaming industry.
They explore Tap Nation's growth from a startup to a mid-size publisher, the challenges of transitioning from hypercasual to hybrid casual, and the importance of user acquisition and marketing strategies.
The conversation also delves into acquisition strategies, building internal capabilities for live operations, and the future outlook for the gaming industry.
Chapters
00:00 The Rise of Hypercasual Gaming in France
02:52 Tap Nation's Evolution: From Hypercasual to Hybrid Casual
06:04 Navigating Challenges in a Post-COVID Gaming Landscape
08:54 Marketing Strategies: LTV vs. CAC in Hybrid Casual
12:04 Acquisition Strategies: Building a Portfolio of Games
14:56 Operational Changes: Adapting to Hybrid Casual Dynamics
17:51 Building Internal Capabilities for Game Development
21:00 The Future of Tap Nation: Diversifying Game Types
24:07 Competing in a Crowded Market: Finding Unique Assets
32:25 The Competitive Landscape of Game Publishing
35:11 Building Relationships in the Gaming Industry
39:11 Navigating Acquisitions and Partnerships
44:17 The Evolution of Tapnation and Its Strategies
50:43 Industry Outlook: Challenges and Opportunities
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261. Climbing to the C-Suite: Insights from Mission One's Gerard Miles
Michail Katkoff and Gerard Miles dive into the nuances of executive headhunting, exploring the role of headhunters, pathways to the C-suite, and the significance of personal branding and mentorship in career growth. They share insights on how candidates can position themselves for leadership roles and embrace strategic thinking to thrive in a competitive hiring landscape.
The discussion also highlights common mistakes in the executive search process, the importance of empathy in interviews, and the value of building genuine relationships. They address the challenges and advantages of international relocation, as well as the growing role of AI in hiring, stressing the need for candidates to be prepared and deeply engaged throughout the process.
00:00 Introduction to Executive Headhunting
01:00 Understanding the Role of an Executive Headhunter
10:41 Navigating the C-Suite: Pathways to Leadership
20:36 Building Your Personal Brand for Executive Roles
27:32 The Importance of Mentorship in Career Growth
37:59 Common Mistakes in Executive Search
44:40 Empathy in the Interview Process
51:40 Building Relationships in Recruitment
57:38 Challenges and Benefits of International Relocation
01:10:48 The Rise of AI in Executive Hiring
keywords: executive headhunting, C-suite, leadership, personal brand, mentorship, career growth, talent acquisition, strategic thinking, networking, hiring process, executive search, interview preparation, candidate experience, recruitment process, international relocation, AI in hiring, empathy in interviews, building relationships, hiring mistakes, talent acquisition

TWiG Bonus Episode: Holiday Special (UEFN, Royal Kingdom, and the Steam race)
No agenda? No problem! Ethan returns from UEFN dormancy to break some exciting news. Jen sells a BMW, while Eric tries to sell a Roblox correction. The Puzzle Queen herself ascends to browbeat Royale Kingdom into better KPIs, and Phil shares pictures of his cat in a banana.
01:17 Holiday Reflections and Family Updates
03:03 Good News, Bad News
04:01 Parenting Challenges and Teenage Years
06:23 Podcast Banter and Personal Stories
08:29 Cat Updates and Car Stories
12:50 Seattle Winter and Personal Updates
14:22 Startup Exit and GameFam
15:09 Roblox and UEFN Discussion
29:03 The Evolution of Fortnite's Algorithm
29:17 Challenges with Limited Analytics
30:27 Licensed Content and Revenue Sharing
31:45 The Future of Survival Crafting Games
33:21 Comparing Royal Kingdom and Royal Match
35:13 Analyzing Game Revenue Trends
37:06 Predictions for 2025 Gaming Trends
39:22 Golden Twig Awards Recap
53:21 Handheld Gaming Innovations
55:25 Holiday Wishes and Final Thoughts

260. David Nelson: The Maverick’s Guide for Thriving in BIG Organizations
In this episode, David Nelson co-Founder of Magnetic and a true maverick of our industry, dives deep into the nuances of mobile gaming innovation.
David discusses his journey through King, including the formation and successes of the experimentation group. As the industry transforms, he explains the importance of understanding your audience, the pitfalls of following trends blindly, and the necessity of building a strong company strategy. David also offers insights on how to navigate organizational changes and cultivate a culture of constructive conflict.
Finally, get a sneak peek into what Magnetic is working on and its approach to creating the next big hit in mobile gaming.
01:03 David Nelson's Background and Identity
04:38 Career at King and Experimentation Group
06:18 Starting a New Company and Investor Insights
09:44 Importance of Honest Feedback and Alignment
11:59 Challenges and Strategies in Game Development
24:31 The Role of Conflict in Meetings
33:07 The Debate Over Small Games
34:04 Testing and Proving Concepts
38:04 Framework for High-Impact Tests
40:35 Challenges of Creative Work
43:33 Experimentation Group Achievements
49:59 Navigating Corporate Culture
55:58 Building Trust and Social Capital
01:03:46 Advice for Driving Change
01:12:21 Insights on Mobile Game Industry
01:35:23 Final Thoughts and Reflections

TWIG #313 Netflix Games Gets Jacked while the Game Awards Jacks Up Numbers
We kick things off with a deep dive into what separates different Nordic countries with regional experts Phillip Black and Mishka Katkoff. Next, we tackle Squad Busters’ ambitious new update. Will it be enough to reverse its decline, or is it too little, too late? Then, there will be chaos in the streaming world as Netflix Games gets GTAd! What went down, and what does it mean for the company’s gaming ambitions? Only Kress can give it to us. Finally, Jen takes us through the Game Awards (aka. the Jeff Keighley Awards) — the wins, the snubs, and what it all means for the industry. Hosts: Mishka Katkoff, Eric Kress, Jen Donahoe, and Phillip Black. 02:07 Supercell's LinkedIn Antics 03:07 Nordic Rivalries Explained 05:09 Event Updates 07:43 Path of Exile Monetization 08:32 Roblox and UEFN Profitability 12:11 Epic Games and Telefonica Deal 15:52 AppLovin's Ad Strategy Change 16:43 Brawl Stars and Toy Story Collaboration 17:25 Netflix Games Licensing Issues 26:07 Build a Rocket Boy Acquisition 28:28 Beam Ventures Gaming Fund 33:40 Game Updates: Path of Exile 2, Marvel Rivals, Delta Force 37:57 Pokemon TCG Pocket's Performance 39:56 Pokemon Go vs. TCG Pocket 44:07 Royal Kingdom's Launch and Comparison 49:42 Supercell's Squadbusters Update 57:17 Game Awards 2024 Highlights

259. From Segmentation to Personalization: The SciPlay Approach to Success
Cameron Stewart, Group Vice President at SciPlay, shares valuable insights on the robust growth of social casinos, emphasizing retention and monetization strategies.
We explore how SciPlay operates with low concentration levels in the market, the importance of personalizing user experiences, and the innovative approaches driving their success.
Get an insider's look at the strategic decisions, including talent investment and the unified infrastructure for game development, that make SciPlay a leader in the field.
Additionally, Cameron speaks on the benefits and challenges of a return-to-office workplace culture and the strategic value of acquisitions and portfolio diversification.
00:00 Welcome and Introduction
00:28 Understanding the Social Casino Market
03:15 Challenges and Strategies in Game Development
06:15 Segmentation to Personalization
10:25 Retention and Engagement Metrics
16:39 Monetization and Live Operations
33:09 Direct-to-Consumer Strategies
37:19 Exploring the Social Casino Market
38:32 Partnerships and Strategies
40:37 Innovations and Player Behavior
42:11 The Role of IP in Casino Games
43:45 Player Engagement and Retention
51:05 Work Culture and Talent Investment
59:04 Strategic Acquisitions and Diversification
01:06:18 Key Learnings and Advice
01:10:57 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Social Casino, Monetization, Retention, Personalization, Gaming KPIs, Player Experience, Live Operations, Direct to Consumer, Market Trends, SciPlay, social casino, game development, innovation, acquisitions, player engagement, market strategy, IP integration, casino industry

TWIG #312 THE GREATEST WEEK IN F2P. EVER? EVER!
With Miska set on another jet, Q5 launches in earnest with Marvel Rivals, Delta Force, Path of Exile 2, Infinity Nikki, and Girlsfront Line 2. Oh my, oh my.
Kress gives his full review of Infinity Nikki’s costumes, while Jen pulls “Franchise” Beetlejuice. How can Marvel Rivals cross-promote in every Marvel game? Adam pours cold water retention down the acquisition’s back while Phil tries to light the Chinese game industry fire while wearing a tight desert camouflage shirt (?).
00:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
00:56 Meet the Hosts
01:33 Secret Level Screening Review
06:13 Game Exec Supper Club Announcement
07:47 Industry News and Corrections
09:55 Investment and M&A Updates
12:36 New Game Releases and Performance
34:43 Mastery Issues in the Game
35:11 Unique Selling Points and Differentiation
35:46 Honeymoon Phase and Meta Development
36:56 Onboarding and Mastery Curve
39:22 Marvel Cross-Promotions and IP Management
44:32 Path of Exile 2: Strategy and Success
53:59 Delta Force: A Battlefield Clone
58:12 Fortnite's New Tactical Shooter
01:00:59 Infinity Nikki: A Unique Pivot
01:07:36 Concluding Thoughts and Future Discussions

258. Unlocking Attribution with TikTok and AppsFlyer
Mishka Kaktoff is joined by Steve Lockwood from TikTok and Roy Yanai from AppsFlyer, who share their extensive insights on evolving attribution techniques, overcoming challenges in the privacy landscape, and future-proofing measurement strategies.
This episode is packed with valuable information that can help improve your campaign performance, game design, and overall marketing outcomes.
Chapters:
00:00 Understanding Mobile Marketing Attribution
01:11 Guest Introductions
04:11 Evolution of Attribution
07:40 Challenges in Attribution
08:59 TikTok's Role in Attribution
12:12 Debate on Last Click Attribution
18:02 Incremental Testing and Media Mix Modeling
31:29 Questioning the Truth in Marketing
32:35 The Evolution of Attribution Methods
33:28 Advertiser Perspectives on Ad Networks
35:07 The Importance of Views in Advertising
36:57 TikTok's Unique Role in Advertising
42:44 Future-Proofing Measurement Strategies
45:28 The Role of Privacy in Measurement
56:06 Success Stories in Attribution
01:01:57 Future Trends in Measurement
01:08:38 Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

257. Up Down Up with Kim Nordström
Up Down Up is now available as an audiobook on Audible!
https://www.amazon.com/UP-DOWN-companies-succeed-others/dp/B0CR7T9DPT
In this episode, Kim Nordstrom joins the podcast to discuss his journey in the gaming industry, from releasing his first game in 1995 to significant roles at PlayStation, King, and Paradox.
The conversation delves into topics from his book 'Up, Down, Up,' exploring what it takes to build a successful game company, the importance of culture and psychological safety, and the challenges of transitioning between growth and maturity phases.
Kim also shares insights from his interviews with top industry leaders and how these experiences have shaped his current role as CEO of PlayerUnknown Productions.
01:05 Kim Nordstrom's Career Journey
03:06 The Making of 'Up, Down, Up'
06:31 Exploring Company Growth Patterns
10:19 The Importance of Company Culture
30:16 Understanding Psychological Safety
43:03 The Importance of Actions Over Words
44:10 Changing Culture Through Leadership
46:20 The SEAL Team Leadership Experiment
47:32 Scaling Teams and Maintaining Culture
48:57 Principles and Values in Leadership
53:34 The Role of Timing in Success
58:58 Navigating Growth and Maturity Phases
01:11:25 Challenges of Innovating Within Established Companies
01:24:32 Reflections on Leadership and Wisdom
01:28:43 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

TWIG #311 Musk Enters the Game, Archero 2 Aims for the Bullseye, PlayStation Goes Portable
In this episode of This Week in Games, we dive into the intriguing rumors surrounding a potential new PlayStation Portable and discuss Elon Musk’s rumored AI game studio, which could reshape innovation in the space.
On the business side, we analyze the closure of Ubisoft studios and the enduring popularity of the Pokémon Trading Card Game.
In mobile gaming, we spotlight Habby’s big launches, including Capybara Go and Archero 2, before discussing Path of Exile 2's early access success.
Plus, we compare two heavyweight Eastern shooters, Marvel Rivals and Delta Force, and examine why so many new MOBAs struggle to gain traction.
Don’t miss this deep dive into the industry’s most exciting stories!
Chapters:
02:48 Shills
04:17 Hybrid Casual Playbook Release
04:38 App Monetization Report
10:30 Fortnite's Record-Breaking Season
14:29 PlayStation Portable Rumors
16:47 Elon Musk's AI Game Studio
18:39 Investments and M&A
24:33 Ubisoft Studio Shutdowns
30:07 Pokemon Trading Card Game Success
35:37 Habby's Big Launches: Capybara Go and Archero 2
40:44 Path of Exile 2 Early Access
43:18 Battle of the Eastern Shooters: Marvel Rivals vs. Delta Force
48:27 The Struggles of New MOBAs
56:51 Conclusion and Sign-Off

256. Running a Successful Live Service Game with Sergei Vasiuk
In this episode, host Mishka Katkoff is joined by Sergei Vasiuk, LiveOps Director at Wargaming and author of 'Running a Successful Live Service Game.'
The two delve into Sergei's book, discussing everything from the evolution of gaming models to data-driven development, player engagement, monetization strategies, and the challenges of global operations.
This episode is a treasure trove of insights for anyone in game development or LiveOps. Tune in for practical advice, learnings from Wargaming, and how to keep players engaged and your game profitable!
00:41 Importance of Live Operations
01:08 Overview of Sergei's Book
03:34 Sergei's Journey and Role at Wargaming
07:50 The Evolution of Gaming Models
12:03 Challenges and Strategies in Live Service Games
31:29 The Future of LiveOps and Community Engagement
38:23 Building Relationships with Content Creators
40:12 The Role of Data in Game Development
42:11 Understanding LiveOps and Player Engagement
45:34 The Importance of Decision Making in LiveOps
58:34 Balancing Monetization and Player Experience
01:11:16 Global Operations and Regional Relevance
01:18:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

255. From Casual to Complex: Trends that Shaped Gaming in 2024
Dive deep into the world of game development and user acquisition with AppLovin’s Daniel TchernahovskyIn this episode, we explore the growth of mobile gaming, the significance of hybrid monetization, and the impact of automation and AI on user acquisition strategies.
Learn how Applovin's journey from startup to powerhouse company evolved, the importance of maintaining company culture, and strategic insights on app and game monetization.
00:51 Daniel’s Journey with Applovin
08:21 Industry Trends and Insights
18:23 The Rise of Hybrid Monetization
31:46 Aligning Marketing and Product Teams
35:09 Understanding Benchmarks and Metrics
37:14 Integrating User Acquisition in Development
38:33 Team Dynamics and Agile Development
42:50 Predictive LTV and Visualization Techniques
47:35 Avoiding the Doom Loop
56:50 The Rise of Apps vs. Games

TWIG #310 Can Royal Kingdom Reach the Peak? Who Wins the War of the You Giants?
Happy Thanksgaming! This week, the Deconstructor of Fun crew kicks things off with a recap of the buzzing Slush event before diving into a deep analysis of Call of Duty: Black Ops 6. From there, we tackle Ubisoft’s heated return-to-office controversy and explore Hasbro’s massive $150 million investment in gaming.
The latter half of the episode delves into Royal Kingdom’s prolonged soft launch strategy and wrap up with a discussion on FIFA’s latest collaboration with Mythical Games. Can they rival EA FC?
Tune in for insights, reflections, and a glimpse into what lies ahead in the evolving gaming landscape!
00:00 Happy Thanksgaming!
02:54 Slush Event Recap
08:26 Heroic Labs Updates
17:37 Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 Analysis
29:49 Ubisoft's Return to Office Controversy
36:54 Hasbro's $150 Million Investment in Gaming
41:03 Mattel vs. Hasbro: A Tale of Two Toy Giants
45:48 The Interconnectedness of Toys and Gaming
54:47 Game District's Acquisition of Gleam Games
55:49 AppCharge Raises $26 Million for Gaming Apps
56:36 Royal Kingdom's Market Strategy
01:10:47 Mythical Games' New Arcade Football Game
01:15:44 Wrapping Up: Reflections and Future Prospects

254. Inside Timi Studio: How Call of Duty Mobile Set the Stage for Delta Force
Phillip Black sits down with Leo Yao, General Manager of Timi Studio Group’s J3 studio, for an exclusive look at the making of Call of Duty Mobile and the upcoming Delta Force.
Discover how Timi shocked Activision with a two-month Nuketown demo, the secrets behind COD Mobile’s record-breaking live ops, and why Delta Force pivots to tackle Battlefield.
Insights:
- The surprising dominance of Crossfire in China over global FPS franchises.
- The East vs. West FPS divide—tactical vs. arcade gameplay.
- Delta Force’s PC-first pivot, cross-platform ambitions, and bi-monthly content updates.
- Timi’s roots in humility and adaptability for live-service success.
Chapters:
00:53 Leo Yao and Timmy's Studio Group
02:31 Call of Duty Mobile: Development and Success
05:21 Challenges and Strategies in the Mobile FPS Market
09:23 Team Structure and Company Culture at Timmy
14:14 Cross-Platform Gaming and Future Trends
18:10 Chinese PC Shooter Market Insights
21:21 PC vs Mobile: A Developer's Perspective
23:38 Delta Force: Fitting into the FPS Landscape
25:49 Live Service and Content Updates
28:23 Monetization Strategies for Delta Force
30:14 The Rise of Extraction Shooters
36:54 Why Delta Force? The Strategy for IP's Revival
38:44 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

TWIG #309: EA’s AI problems, Monopoly GO’s decline, and Pokémon Pocket’s success
As Kress’ World of Warcraft account turns 20, we blow out the candles and reflect on a surprising reason behind EA’s disastrous AI investor presentation. Jen delivers a valiant defense of Monopoly Go’s new TV campaign, while Phil reviews the early returns of Pokémon TCG Pocket. Big in Japan, as they say? The group wraps up with what might be the year’s final Embracer hazing session, absolving themselves of any remaining crimes.
chapters: 01:19 Birthday Wishes for WoW and Half-Life 2
04:48 EA Tries to Soothe AI Worries
10:03 Game Industry Awards and Nominations
14:47 AAA Devs and Startups
19:04 PlayVentures' New Gaming Fund
21:24 Miniclip Acquires EasyBrain
28:32 X Rioters and Supervive
31:15 Capybara Go and Archero 2
32:02 Pokemon TCG Pocket Success
38:47 Marvel Snap and Sinister Loot Boxes
41:15 New Monopoly Go Campaign

253. TikTok's LiveOps Enchantment
Join us on the Deconstructor of Fun Podcast as we delve into LiveOps strategies for Q5 with esteemed guests Sezer Degirmenbasi, head of EMEA for mobile gaming at TikTok, and John Wright, head of publishing at Kwalee.
In this episode, you’ll discover what Q5 is and why it's crucial for game marketers and learn detailed strategies for leveraging TikTok's LiveOps tools to extend your game's lifecycle, increase user engagement, and maximize revenue
00:00 Introduction
00:56 Understanding Q5: The Invisible Quarter
06:10 LiveOps Strategies and Definitions
11:27 TikTok's Role in LiveOps Success
16:24 TikTok's LiveOps Program Explained
21:56 Creative Strategies for LiveOps
27:55 The Need for Differentiation
29:34 Reviving Older Games with TikTok
36:56 Success Metrics for LiveOps Campaigns
46:54 Final Thoughts and Advice for Developers
51:02 Culturalization in LiveOps
54:35 Conclusion and Community Engagement

252. Value Optimization, Hybridcasual, and the Impact of AI
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In this podcast episode, Michail Katkoff hosts Manish Gajria, Director of Product from Meta, and Ryan Davies, Head of Performance Marketing from Kwalee to discuss the current trends in the mobile gaming market, focusing on value optimization, hybrid casual games, and the impact of AI on user acquisition strategies.
They explore the challenges of measurement and attribution in a changing landscape, and the importance of creative strategies, and share success stories from the industry. The conversation highlights the evolving nature of gaming marketing and the tools that Meta is developing to support advertisers in achieving better outcomes.
Chapters 0:00 Introduction and Episode Overview
01:46 Meet the Guests: Manish Kashria and Ryan Davis
02:19 Current Trends in Mobile Gaming
04:15 Value Optimization in User Acquisition
07:24 Challenges and Strategies in Gaming Marketing
17:37 Hybrid Casual Games: The New Frontier
33:19 Success Stories and Case Studies
34:54 Gaming Apps and Value Optimization
36:17 Subscription Apps and Value Optimization
38:14 The Role of UA Managers and Automation
44:53 Combining Optimization Techniques
48:24 AI in User Acquisition
57:16 Measurement and Attribution Challenges0
1:04:03 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

TWIG #308 Plarium Gets Raided / Take-Two Divests / EA CEO Flirts With Disney
After Kress released the rockets at large VCs last week the crew gets back into heated venture capital discussions exploring the complexities of VC investments in gaming and the shifting landscape of game development and funding.
The conversation also touches on the potential leadership changes at EA, the implications of recent acquisitions in the gaming industry, and the performance of companies like Roblox. The discussion highlights the strategic moves by companies like MTG and Take-Two, as well as the challenges and opportunities in the current market landscape.
Hosts: Eric Kress, Jen Donahoe, Phillip Black, Jen Donahoe
Content: 01:30 Mishka's Banter and Shills
06:41 Corrections and Clarifications
10:22 VC Investments in Gaming
22:04 Crunchyroll and Meta Updates
24:59 EA and Disney Rumors
27:20 Wall Street's Favorite CEOs
30:18 MTG's Strategic Acquisitions
31:46 Plarium's Surprising Valuation
37:51 Take-Two's Divestments and Chartboost Sale
43:51 Roblox's Impressive Growth
49:55 Dream's New Puzzle RPG
56:00 Conclusion and Upcoming Topics
Keywords: game industry, venture capital, Crunchyroll, mobile gaming, EA leadership, gaming news, game funding, gaming trends, gaming investments, acquisitions, MTG, Plarium, Take-Two, Roblox,

251. LIVE from San Francisco with Special Guest Stars
Jen Donahoe, Laura Taranto, and Eric Kress live from GamesForum San Francisco.
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview
01:29 Panelist Intros
05:53 First Topic: Unfiltered Growth and Monetization
12:50 Incentivized Advertising: Past and Present
17:59 Challenges and Future of Incentivized Ads
27:27 Expanding Beyond Gaming: Brand Collaborations
32:15 Exploring Roblox's Integration with Shopify
32:52 The Shift in Game Design and Monetization
35:29 Surviving in 2025
36:12 Mobile and Console Gaming's Existential Crisis
37:55 Opportunities and Challenges in Mobile Gaming
39:00 The Role of Small Studios in the Gaming Market
44:11 Netflix's Foray into Gaming
50:57 Challenges in Game Discovery and Engagement
59:42 The Future of Gaming and AI in Marketing
01:00:05 Final Thoughts and Wrap-Up

TWIG #307 Pokemon Game Rises, Supercell's IPO Dreams and VC Misdeeds
Eric roleplays as his Old Man Yells at Cloud Halloween costume, sparing no expense at Netflix’s strange announcement and an ugly breakdown of modern venture capital. Laura tells us if Pokemon’s new mobile game looks more like Go or Masters, while Jen gives a eulogy for Space Ape. Phil raves at Call of Duties monster success and asks Nadella to release the Game Pass tapes.
00:26 Nintendo Switch Earnings Analysis
16:31 Netflix's Interactive Titles and Generative AI
20:49 Supercell Acquires SpaceApe
23:02 Dragon Age and Call of Duty Updates
31:51 Pokemon TCG Mobile: First Impressions
38:50 The Role of VC in Gaming Startups
42:09 Investment Trends and Success Stories
45:22 VC Firm Challenges + The Future of VCs in Gaming

250. Winning with Creators: How Gaming’s Marketing Strategy is Evolving
In this episode of Deconstructor of Fun, we dive into the shifting landscape of influencer marketing in the gaming industry, focusing on the emergence and impact of creator programs.
Our guests: Patrick "Chief Pat" Carney (Tribe Gaming), Scott Walker (Ninja Kiwi), and Justin Sacks (Nexus.gg) — industry experts and key voices in creator marketing—explore the evolving roles of influencers and creators, moving from short-term campaigns to deeper, sustained partnerships that drive community engagement and revenue.
We discuss how companies like Supercell have pioneered successful creator programs and examine the role of platforms in supporting these initiatives. We also address the challenges developers face in managing creator programs, particularly for smaller studios, and how user-generated content (UGC) is reshaping the gaming experience.
Tune in to learn how creator programs are transforming marketing, community building, and even game development itself.
Host: Jen Donahoe
Chapters:
04:36 Defining Creator Programs
06:47 Creator Program Benefits
11:52 Supercell's Creator Program
20:09 Building a Creator Platform
21:44 Implementation
26:08 Challenges in Developer-Marketer Collaboration
26:45 Web2 Play-to-Earn Concept
28:52 Impact on Small Developers
30:38 Revenue and Engagement Metrics
34:04 Nexus and Creator Programs
36:06 Supercell's Creator Program Evolution
38:18 Brawl Stars and Community Management
40:57 Administrative Challenges in Creator Programs
43:45 UGC and Future Developers
Keywords: influencer marketing, creator programs, gaming, Supercell, Nexus.gg, community engagement, mobile games, revenue share, content creators, game development, game development, content creators, revenue sharing, player engagement, user-generated content, mobile games, creator programs, game marketing, community building, game monetization

TWIG #306 Is Apple’s Big Move a Trick or a Treat?
It’s Halloween and conference season, so we’re diving into all the latest insights without of course missing a basketball update. In today’s episode, we got Call of Duty’s continued dominance, Battlefield’s woes, Apple’s App Store for gaming, China’s rise in 4x games, and Barbie’s design mismatch. Dive in for all things gaming, snark included! Hosts: Jen Donahoe, Eric Kress, Phillip Black and Mishka Katkoff Keywords: gaming news, game industry, conferences, shooter games, Netflix gaming, Apple gaming store, gaming industry, Switch 2, Roblox, web stores, child safety, investments, Bungie, Sony, studio closures, Tencent, shooter games, Forex games, mobile gaming, Barbie game, Call of Duty, Battlefield, gaming trends Chapters: 01:39 Halloween and Conference Season 03:56 Basketball Update and Conference Insights 10:36 Shooter Panel + Market Trends 16:46 Netflix's AAA Game Shutdown and Apple App Store Rumors 22:15 Nintendo Switch 2 Rumors 26:34 Roblox's Child Safety Measures 31:29 Investments, Divestments, and M&A 38:50 The Struggles of IP-Driven Games 41:40 The MOBA Market in the West 45:30 Bungie Under PlayStation: Not Good 47:14 Sony Shuts Down Firewalk Studios 52:21 Chinese Developers and 4x Games 56:24 Barbie Game's Creative Mismatch 01:05:19 Call of Duty Continues Crushing It 01:10:21 Battlefield's Downfall

249. Shooting for Success: Navigating the Ultra Competitive Shooter Genre
In this deep dive discussion, Adam Telfer, Chris Sides, Phillip Black, and Davan Brannan explore the current state of the PC and console shooter genre, analyzing player engagement trends, the impact of COVID-19, and the struggles of new game entrants in a saturated market.
They discuss the decline in player numbers for popular titles, the challenges of maintaining engagement, and the implications for future game development. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the challenges and strategies surrounding the launch and retention of new first-person shooter (FPS) games.
The four also discuss the importance of live content, player migration, and the barriers new titles face in a saturated market.
The conversation ends with an exploration of the future of extraction shooters and the key elements developers must focus on to succeed in the competitive landscape of PvP shooters.
Chapters:
00:00 The Shooter Genre Landscape
02:36 Analyzing Player Engagement in Shooters
09:06 The Impact of COVID on Shooter Game Popularity
11:00 Contrasting Successes and Failures in Recent Titles
21:33 New Entrants and Their Struggles in the Market
28:35 The Challenge of Launching New FPS Games
32:00 Player Migration and Retention in FPS Titles
35:32 Barriers for New PvP Shooters
38:09 Strategies for Competing in a Saturated Market
41:58 The Future of Extraction Shooters
49:57 Key Takeaways for Developing Successful Shooters
Keywords:
PC, console, shooter games, player engagement, market analysis, COVID impact, game launches, FPS, PvP, PvE, FPS games, player retention, game development, extraction shooters, PvP shooters, gaming market, player migration, live service, game thesis, competitive gaming

TWIG #305 Music Stops at Netflix Games as Hell's Bells Ring for AA Games
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This episode of This Week in Games covers major shifts in gaming, as Netflix shutting down its AAA studio, TikTok’s LiveOps program, and the rise of influencer marketing and Supercell’s all-hands-on-deck approach to save Squad Busters. The episode also addresses the perceived decline of AA studios.
Hosts: Jen Donahoe, Adam Telfer, Phillip Black and Mishka Katkoff

248. Peter Levin on Transmedia Trends, the Future of Global Gaming and Finland’s Gaming Legacy
On his 55th visit to beyond the Wall (aka. Finland) Peter Levin of Griffin Gaming Partners delves into the influence of Finland's gaming scene, the global success of companies like Supercell, and the legacy of titles such as Angry Birds and Habbo Hotel.
We discuss the impact of technology, transmedia trends, and how non-endemic players like Netflix are entering the gaming space. The conversation covers strategic mergers and acquisitions, the resurgence of PC gaming, and the exciting potential in emerging markets.
Tune in to understand how cultural adaptability, partnership dynamics, and IP management are driving the gaming industry forward.
00:00 Introduction and Peter's Frequent Visits to Finland
02:59 Rovio and Angry Birds
08:35 Impact of Nokia and Finnish Gaming Success
15:08 Challenges and Opportunities in the Finnish Gaming Market
18:56 Global Perspective and Market Dynamics
27:09 Transmedia and Gaming Adaptations
37:33 Disney's Aha Moment
38:12 Legacy Media and Gaming
38:37 Warner Brothers' Gaming Success
39:21 Advice for Big IP Holders
39:37 Investing in Gaming Executives
40:37 Strategic Acquisitions
41:27 Sports Leagues and Gaming
41:55 Overinvestment Concerns
42:48 Netflix's Gaming Strategy
50:18 Transmedia Business Case
52:16 John Wick in Fortnite
55:20 Skills and IP Partnerships
01:07:01 Future of Gaming
01:10:49 Closing Thoughts

TWIG #304 Supercell's Marketing Shakes Up while Web3 Shoots Back!
In this episode of TWIG (This Week in Games), the team dives into recent gaming industry news, starting with Google’s Play and Xbox announcements, followed by the Game Freak data breach and Xbox developments.
'They discuss Supercell’s mysterious Project Rise, the rumored Destiny Rising mobile game, and blockchain gaming with Off the Grid. The episode also highlights Azra Games’ Project Legends, speculates on Scopely’s next mega-deal, and wraps up with Supercell’s marketing shakeup.
00:00 Intro
01:55 Quick Hits
05:28 Google Play and Xbox Announcements
07:43 Game Freak Data Breach and Xbox News
13:16 Supercell's Project Rise
14:17 Destiny Rising Mobile Game
20:54 Off the Grid: Blockchain Gaming
29:54 Web3 Game Development Challenges
30:37 Marketing and Investor Influence
31:23 Player Reception and Crypto Integration
36:16 Azra Games and Project Legends
45:06 Scopely's Mega Deal Speculations
56:40 Supercell's Marketing Shakeup

#247 Scopely Co-CEO, Javier Ferreira, on the Gaming Industry's Future and Strategies for Success
Michail Katkoff sits down with Javier Ferreira, Co-CEO of Scopely, to explore the success behind Scopely's hit game Monopoly Go, which has generated over $3 billion in lifetime revenue.
Javier shares insights into Scopely's acquisition by Savvy, the impact of solid partnerships, and Scopely's future ambitions with original IPs.
Learn about effective game development, strategic risk-taking, and the evolving landscape of the gaming industry. Discover what makes Scopely a leader in IP-based gaming and Javier's views on the bright future of gaming.
00:00 Introduction and Learning Journey
01:06 Monopoly Go's Commercial Success
07:05 Scopely's Approach to IP and Game Development
13:13 Challenges and Convictions in Game Development
22:44 Impact of Savvy's Acquisition on Scopely
31:05 Future of the Gaming Industry and Final Thoughts

TWIG #303 Toxic Positivity, Squad Busters Speculation and Roblox 🔥
The TWIG team unpacks the latest developments in Ubisoft’s internal drama. They also dive into the troubled launch of Squadbusters and explore whether toxic positivity is a growing issue in game development. Plus, get the latest on the Epic vs. Google legal battle and the controversies surrounding Roblox. Tune in for sharp analysis and thoughtful discussion on all things gaming!
02:02 Event Highlights and Industry Insights
04:37 Savvy Games Group and Upcoming Podcasts
08:21 Ubisoft Drama and Tencent's Stake
13:35 Squadbusters Game Launch Misfires?
32:51 Exploring Toxic Positivity in Game Development
52:23 Epic vs Google Legal Battle
59:00 Roblox Under Fire